Calculating Fixed Costs


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A previous article discussed The Flip Formula for determining whether or not I consider a flip project to be worth undertaking. In my formula, I referred to “Fixed Costs” and I mentioned that my Fixed Costs for a recent project were about $17,000. I wanted to elaborate on that a bit more, so as to help other investors who use The Flip Formula assess their own Fixed Costs.

Fixed Costs are compromised of the various fees, commissions, and costs associated with all parts the investment project (outside of the actual rehab costs). While each investor (and each project) likely has their own specific fixed costs, for me they can generally be broken down into the following three categories:

  1. Purchase Costs
  2. Holding Costs
  3. Selling Costs

And then each of these categories can be broken down in more detailed expense line-items…

Purchase Costs

Purchase Costs refer to those fixed expenses that contribute to the purchase of a property. For my projects, Purchase Costs can specifically be broken down as follows:

  • Inspection Costs: In general, I have an inspection for each of my properties prior to purchase. I use the same inspector for every inspection, and for the most part he charges about $400 for a full inspection of a typical property.
  • Closing Costs: Each purchase comes with a fixed set of closing costs paid by the buyer. In Georgia, and for REO purchases, this generally includes a title search, attorney fees, courier fees, recording fees, state taxes, document review fees, etc. Basically, all those ridiculously inflated costs charged by the closing attorney to ensure clear title and recording of the new deed. Across all my purchases, these costs generally come in around $1000.
  • Lender Fees: For the most part, I use the same lender to finance each property purchase. The lender charges a set of up-front fees to fund the loan, including a Loan Origination Fee, appraisal, underwriting fee, flood certification, document preparation fee, processing, fee, credit report fee, etc. (again, all those ridiculous and inflated fees that contribute to the lender’s bottom line). While every investor and every lender will have a specific sets of fees — and while these fees are somewhat tied to the purchase price of the property — for a typical acquisition I do, these Lender Fees total around $2000 per property.

Holding Costs

Holding Costs refer to those expenses that add up between the time I acquire the property and the time I sell the property. For my projects, Holding Costs can specifically be broken down as follows:

  • Mortgage Payments: On a typical project, my monthly mortgage payment will be about $500. And a typical project — from purchase to sale — will generally run between 4-6 months. So, during that time, I’ll generally make about $2500 worth of mortgage payments to my lender to keep the property.
  • Property Taxes: On the properties I purchase, the typical yearly property taxes are on the order of $1400. Again, if I hold the property for 4-6 months, this will average out to about $600 in property taxes per project.
  • Utilities: While performing rehabs, I like to ensure that all utilities (electricity, water and gas) are turned on. This is both for the convenience of my contractors as well as to help diagnose any issues with the property. Because the seasons in Georgia tend towards extreme temperatures, I’ve found that my utilities in my properties generally run about $200 per month for the duration of the project. Again, over 4-6 months, this averages about $1000 per project in utility costs.
  • Insurance: Typical insurance costs for my properties is about $350-400 per year. On average, I pay about $200 in insurance costs for each project.

Selling Costs

Selling Costs refer to those fees and commissions that must be paid for me to sell a property. Again, different investors will use different marketing mechanism to sell their houses, so selling costs for each investor may be quite different. For my projects, Selling Costs can be broken down as follows:

  • Commissions: Because my wife is our real estate agent, we save about half of the commissions we would otherwise incur when selling a property. That said, if our buyer has their own agent — they generally do — we must pay about 3% of the purchase price to that agent at the sale. A typical property of ours sells at about $120K, so that 3% comes out to about $3600 paid to the buyer’s agent at the sale of our property. Add to that the fees my wife pays to her broker, and the total commissions average about $3900 per property sale.
  • Closing Costs: In this market, most buyers ask the seller to pay some or all of their closing costs. On our sales, we’ve been asked to pay anywhere from $2000 to $6000 in closing costs for the buyer. On average, we’re asked to pay about $4000 in buyer closing costs, and because it is a buyer’s market, we generally agree to it.
  • Home Warranty: Most first-time home buyers (the type we cater to) request that the seller purchase a home warranty as a condition of the sale. We always expect to do this (and almost always have), and this adds about $500 to the cost of the sale for us.
  • Termite Letter: In addition to the home warranty, many buyers (and/or their lenders) require us to provide a proof of termite inspection at the sale. This generally runs somewhere just below $100.
  • MLS Fees: Because my wife is our agent, she is required to pay a fee to the local MLS for listing the property. This generally runs about $100.

As you can see above, buying, holding and selling a property can cost a lot of money in fixed fees. Let’s see how these add up on a typical project of mine:


Fixed Costs

And there you have it — it costs me about $16,500 in commissions and fees just buy, hold and sell a property. Many investors ignore these costs when calculating their potential profit on a deal; but, consider that if you plan to earn about $15K on a typical project, these costs can actually mean the difference between earning your desired profit and losing money!






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1 VikramC October 18, 2009 at 7:42 pm

Great post! Thanks.

2 Esteban June 15, 2010 at 12:23 pm

Hey man thanks for taking your time in helping others making and huge diffrence in there live I was always atracted to real estate, but never really had the education on how to get started. So make story short Thanks you

3 Sarah August 28, 2010 at 9:50 am

What kind of insurance are you getting? I think we are overpaying for the vacant home policy we’re getting at about $150/ month. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

4 J Scott August 28, 2010 at 9:58 am

Hi Sarah -

$150/month is about right for a builder’s risk policy that covers vacant houses…

We often don’t get vacant house insurance (and sometimes just get a landlord policy if our lender requires insurance), which is why our numbers are a good bit lower than you’d expect for insurance.

5 Matt November 28, 2010 at 8:40 pm

Who do you go through for your insurance? I flipped a house a couple years ago and had a hard time finding a local insurance company to give me insurance. I ended up finding someone that cost me $700 for a 1 year policy. They wouldn’t go any lower and I bought the house for about $70k. I ended up needing it because the house was broken into while I was gone on vacation and they caused about $8k in damage. What’s the difference in coverage between a landlord policy and a vacant house policy?

6 J Scott November 28, 2010 at 10:53 pm

Matt -

A landlord policy will generally only protect you if the property is inhabited or has been within the past 30 days. This is often not the case for rehab properties and if you try to make a claim and can’t prove that the place was rented, your claim WILL get denied. What you want is a “builders risk” policy — these are insurance policies for vacant houses that are undergoing renovation, and these policies will pay out on a lot of things that can happen during a rehab.

In general, landlord policies are a lot cheaper than builders risk policies, but if you can’t afford to cover a large loss yourself during a rehab (major vandalism, major storm, fire, etc) it’s probably worth it.

For Builders Risk policies, check out Zurich Insurance, American Modern Insurance and Foremost Insurance. For landlord policies, I go with Allstate, but most insurance companies provide these, so choose whatever you use for your personal home and auto insurance.

7 George Ramsay December 13, 2010 at 12:48 pm

Hey J
followed you here from bigger pockets & love the site!!

Not sure what kind of financing you are using(if any), but I didn’t see a down payment included w/ your costs and was wondering if you account for that.

Thanks again!

8 J Scott December 13, 2010 at 1:15 pm

Hi George -

There are two reasons why I don’t include Downpayment in the Fixed Costs:

1. I consider Fixed Costs to be anything that doesn’t build direct equity in the property…in other words, they are the “cost of doing business”. Downpayment is equity that is immediately available to withdrawl through a sale or refi (unlike other fees, commissions and rehab costs);

2. In my Flip Formula, Downpayment is included in the Maximum Purchase Price (MPP) of the property, which makes it independent of the type of financing that is used. If it were also part of the Fixed Costs, it would be double-counted.

9 Kurt January 30, 2011 at 11:23 pm

Hey J,

Like George above, I saw a post on Bigger Pockets and followed it to your website.

What a wealth of information you have here. Thanks for sharing and I hope we can compare notes on deals in the future.

To a great 2011!

10 Toni DeSalvo April 19, 2011 at 1:12 am

Can you provide some insights re: portfolio lending in CA? Have you used any for your investments? Thank you!
Toni De Salvo

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